Class
responses to presentations on May 31
Group
26
Of the
presentations performed yesterday, the one that I found most meaningful was
from group 26. This group presented their game called the game of innocence and
experience. The game featured eight questions, four of them were about the
poems that were written by William Blake and the other four were about every
day experiences. The questions asked for the audiences
opinion on these topics. One answer was always innocent and naive,
the other was pessimistic and experienced. At the end of the presentation
the audience was asked to tally their answers and grade themselves as being
innocent, neutral or experienced. If you were innocent, you had a similar
attitude to Blake near the beginning of the French revolution when he was happy
and hopeful for the future. If you were experienced, you were similar to Blake
at the end of the French revolution when he was depressed and sad about the way
that the war was going. I really liked this presentation because it made it
very clear how Blake's attitude to the war directly influenced his poems. They
explain Blake's feelings about the two states of human beings, innocent or
experienced. The four readings that the group talked about are the chimney sweeper, tyger and the
lamb, infant joy v infant sorrow, and the nurses song. All of these are two
poems with contrasting viewpoints. The four everyday experiences that the group
showed us were about the joy or hate of Disneyland, coming back to campus after
a break, looking up a mountain, or seeing a playground, seeing these pictures
should have given you the thought of pleasure or pain, very similar to the
contrasting emotions in Blake's poems.
The
Project from today that was most meaningful to me was group 26ユs game based on
Blakeユs songs of innocence and experience. I think that the group did a
very good job of coming up with a unique way to analyze Blakeユs works by asking
us to analyze what he wrote before and after the French Revolution. Blake
very clearly changed his outlook on life after the revolution, and he has many
works that can be compared, which the group demonstrated to us. By
showing us the various versions of his works such as The Chimney Sweeper, The Tyger vs. The Lamb, Infant Joy vs. Infant Sorrow, we were
able to see how Blake became more bitter throughout
his life. I particularly enjoyed following along with the メgameモ and
keeping track of which outlook I most identified with. I also enjoyed how
the group included more easily relatable examples such as メwhat do you think of
when you see Disneylandモ (crowds and extreme prices, or great family memories).
The group kept things very simple by only leaving two choices for each
section, and they really tied it all together in the end with the results
section. I thought it was very funny how they told us to classify
ourselves as innocent, neutral or experienced based on how we answered our
questions (which I was very relieved to find myself listed as innocent).
I could tell that the group really put in a lot of effort and thought
into their game, and I think they did a great job of covering many of Blakeユs
poems.
As good
as all the presentations were, the one that did the best job of instructing the
class of William Blake's work was group 26. Their presentation consisted of an
interesting game that measured everyone's innocence or experience level, and
thus their outlook on life. They went over Blake's history as it pertained to
his sweet innocence before the French Revolution, and his bitter experience
after the French Revolution. They used four different of his poem's that,
depending on the reader, could be interpreted as either innocence or
experience. Two questions were asked for each poem to measure each person's
experience or innocence, which really drove the point home. I liked how they
interacted with the audience and in my humble opinion, did the best job. Nicely
done group 26
I think
that Group 25 did a great job with their project this week. I thought it
was very interesting how they were able to compare William Blakeユs poems by
producing a game show for the class. I think that this concept allowed
for the students to relate their experiences and life easier to the poems,
which William Blake made somewhat difficult and hard to understand. For
example, for the Nursesユ Song, they asked the audience メwhich outlook should
people take on life as they age?モ This allowed you to see if you see the class
half-empty or half-full. I really liked how the sum of your letters
メsupposedlyモ led you to see what your personality type was, whether is was メbitter
and dischanted,モ メneutral and balanced,モ or メupbeat
and optimistic.モ I also liked Group 27ユs video of The Chimney Sweeper as well. I think that it was a very
cool juxtaposition between the innocent, happy pictures of the children, and
the harsh, sad story of The Chimney
Sweeper. I was not as affected after reading the book. I
knew it was sad but I think it is harder for us to grasp because these
wrongdoings do not occur in our world today. However, I was very affected
when they said that the children were so young to realize how this メtormentモ
would affect them as they got older. I thought the
images flowed well, and I thought that the group did a great job
Of the
presentations on May 31st, the one with the most meaning to me was group 26ユs
presentation. They got me thinking about how we all see the same reality, but
we can choose to focus on different aspects of it. For instance, with the
chimney sweep, both songs have a different perspective on the same reality. So,
which perspective is better to have? Even if the positive view of the chimney
sweep is na夫e and delusional, it is much better than adopting the negative
view. The chimney sweep himself will profit more from holding the positive view
than holding the negative view, so who cares what the actual メtruthモ is? I also
thought the nurse was interesting because the experienced nurse was actually
out to maliciously destroy the innocence of the children, where as the nurse in
the songs of innocence was indeed experienced, but she was not malicious to the
children. Itユs as if the nurse in the songs of experience had become the very
thing she despised, as though she had forgotten what it was like to be a kid. I
also liked the groupユs observation that the songs of innocence were written
before the French Revolution, and the songs of experience were written after
the French Revolution. That fact makes me think that Blake himself sort of gave
up on life after experiencing extreme disappointment, and that is a weak thing
for a man to do. As far as I see it, pessimism helps nobody. Even if pessimism
is closer to メreality,モ it still helps nobody. I thought this group asking us
which song was closer to reality was a creative way to get us thinking about
Blakeユs work, and its implications in our own lives.
The group
that appealed to me the most was the first group . I
loved the way they created their own game using the poems from the story.
Getting the audience involved was another aspect I enjoyed. It reminded me of
magazines years ago I used to play and it told me about what kind of person I
was, it was kind of fun. Allowing us to see which of the scenarios we felt more
accurately represents reality, revealed whether we
were more on the innocent side of things or the experienced. I really liked
that they presented things like Disneyland; there are definitely two sides to
going there. When I was young I thought it was quite a magical place, which is
still true to an extent. But the lines are quite a nightmare. You could tell
this group put a lot of time and effort into this presentation and I applaud
them.
Today I
really enjoyed the presentation by group #26. They created a game based
off of the Blake poems we read. The game was interesting to me because it
reminded me of a quiz that you might find in a magazine; one that a reader
would take just for fun to see what famous movie character they were or
something similar. I liked that there were two sets of questions that
were distinct from each other; one question would be related to one of Blakeユs
actual poems and then the second would be a question dealing with the real
world. The quiz was more appealing in my opinion because of the ties to
the real world. I thought the group did a nice job of formulating the
questions and coming up with ones that had a lot of depth to them with great
relevance to the Blake readings. I also like that after taking the quiz you
were able to see where you fell in the categories of innocence, experience, or
somewhere in the middle. The thing that struck me the most about this presentation
though was that it allowed every member of the audience to interact with
Blakeユs poems in a way that applied to our every day life. It was such a
simple form of audience participation that I really appreciated because I
didnユt have to answer a question in front of the class. I could simply
participate from the comfort of my own seat, which really made me feel like I
was actually taking a magazine quiz.
Out of
all the presentations yesterday, I enjoyed that of group number 26 the most.
This group titled their presentation "the Game of Innocence and
Experience." Based upon the poems written by William Blake in his
compilation "Songs of Innocence and Experience," the Game consisted
of comparing pairs of poems. Each poem set that was compared had one poem from
the Innocence section of Blake's work and one poem from the Experience section.
In addition, there were two options (A and B) which
described the overall mood or tone of the poem. The class individually would
decide which option they would choose. We kept track of all our A's and B's and
at the end of the sequence of questions, group 26 revealed what
"type" of person you were based upon your answers. If you had all
B's, you were experienced and negative. If you had a mix, you were balanced. If
you had all A's, you were innocent and optimistic. I ended up having mostly all
A's. This presentation was enticing because it involved active audience
participation while at the same time incorporating Blake's poetry in a
relatable fashion. I enjoyed keeping tally of my answers and discovered my
attitude on life according to WIlliam Blake!
Out of
all the groups that presented yesterday, I thought that group 26's was the most
well thought out. This group combined the analytical process with an
interactive activity, keeping us enticed to keep on listening. Between every
question, they showed the two poems pertaining to the same topic. This slide
would include an analysis of the poems and their topic, which I found very
refreshing. The main idea of their presentation was the "personality"
test. This part was fun and actually kept me interested in listening to what
group 26 had to say. The ending part where they revealed what your answered
revealed was a bit generic and kind of lame, but it was okay. I just wish that they
had more than just three options for what our level of experience was. They
could have easily had 5 categories. Disenchanted, somewhat
negative view, balanced view, somewhat positive view, and then upbeat and
optimistic. I think that those 5 would have worked better and lent a bit
more variety to the ending. I also didn't really understand what their last
picture was and how it related to their project. Maybe I just didn't get the
joke but what does sterilizing your pets have to do with the songs of innocence
and experience?
Out of
all the presentations given on May 31, I thought that Group 26 had the most
informative material. They did a nice job of summarizing William Blakeユs
work and relating it to more modern questions. It was great how they
included the audience. Having the questions made the audience pay
attention and learn more. The conclusion was a great self-reflection of
how each individual audience member views the world. It made me realize
that I might be a little more pessimistic than I should be. A
presentation that goes beyond just showing what was in the story by providing a
deep connection deserves a good grade. I would also like to given an
honorable mention to two other groups. I thought that the first speaker in
Group 29 did an excellent job of speaking – definitely one of the best.
I also enjoyed the creativity of the song they did at the end; it was
unique from every other presentation this quarter. I would also like to
mention Group 30. Their Cal Poly proverbs were very funny and clever and
were a great way to relate to the material created by William Blake.
I enjoyed
all the group projects this week, but the one that stood out to me the most of
was Group 26. Their creativity and well-thought out project not only was entertaining
to the audience, but was engaging and kept the class
involved. This group created a board game based off of William Blakeユs book
that was strategically planned and began with how to play the game. Starting
with eight rounds that was based off of each poem and asked the class a
question to relate each poem to our own lives as the main purpose of the game
to see what kind of person we are. The group touched on each one of Blakeユs
poems, including first ヤThe Chimney Sweeperユ, then ヤThe Tyger
and the Lambユ, then ヤInfant Joy and Infant Sorrowユ, and lastly ヤNurseユs Songユ.
At the end of the board game the audience was to tally up our final score. The
rank was based on As and Bs.
The more Bs you received, the more bitter and dark a
person you are perceived to be, just like Blake during the time of the
Revolution. If you received equal As and Bs, you are perceived as a neutral person. The more As you received, the more youthful a person you are
perceived to be, just like Blake during the time of the beginning of the war.
Their group presentation on William Blake was well thought out and related back
to the text with a sense of creativity. As I stated in the beginning, the last
group of presentations were not only entertaining but
related to the book itself very well.
Group
26's The Game of Innocence and Experience was the most memorable to me. They
examined four of the songs innocence and experience and gave two choices where
A was an upbeat outlook of the two and B was sad outlook of the song. This
really helped me understand the material on a higher level. After each set of
songs they gave an modern example such as climbing Mt.
Everest or the playground and gave two different outlooks for each. They had
you keep track of whether or not you choose A or B. If you had more A you where an Upbeat person and if you had more B you where
a morbid person. If you where even with the A and B then you where neutral. I
thought this was cool because it was one of the more interactive projects that
I have seen so far in this class. Thank you group 26 for a fun presentation.
Group
27
The
groups that presented the other day all seemed to do a great job connecting
their presentations to the material. The group, which stood out the most
in my mind, was group 27 which did an analysis of the Chimney from songs of
Innocence and Experience. The movie with voiceover was entertaining to
watch. The songs of innocence and experience are supposed to show that
people donユt understand the long-term implications of what they see or do.
As in the Chimney sweeper the message was a good boy who clean chimneys
will go to heave. The problem is the boys donユt understand the future
implications of their job. Blake is trying to show that people never dig
deeper than the surface in evaluating their choices. Group 27 did a great
job of making this connection through their movie. Their presentation
really grabbed my attention and allowed me to understand the message Blake was
trying to show us through his songs of innocence and experience. I applaud
the job that group 27 did. It is hard to engage the audience and get them
to understand the message that you are attempting to convey. They did an
excellent job of accomplishing both of these things. Blakeユs message goes
below the surface and can be applied to different tasks and jobs that happen in
todayユs world. Many people fail to look beyond the surface and dig deeper
for underlying messages and themes. This is why many people get taken
advantage of in life. Blakeユs songs can be an eye opener and Group 27 did
an excellent job of showing what Blake was trying to get across to his
audience.
I enjoyed
Group 27ユs commentary on William Blakeユs poem メThe Chimney Sweeper.モ The group
did a very good job of incorporating the images of innocence and experience
into their presentation. The job of chimney sweeping was
traditionally done by young boys, and the group clearly explained
Blakeユs stance on the exploitation of these young boys. I didnユt realize that
Blake intended his poems to be a commentary of corruption that was rampant both
in society and the church. He wanted his poem from the boyユs perspective to
seem na夫e, because the boy wasnユt realizing what was happening to him. The
poem from the older manユs perspective is that of bitterness and jadedness. The
group explained these ideas effectively. The group accurately portrayed images
of both young and old chimney sweeps as they explained the themes of both
poems. The pictures showed the innocence and happiness of children that were
not forced to work, and also showed the sadness in the young chimney sweepsユ
eyes and faces. Overall, the group did an excellent job explaining Blakeユs
reasoning and intentions for both poems, while also giving a visual
representation of the plight of the chimney sweepers.
All of
the projects today were very interesting and insightful. The project that was
most helpful for me was the project made by Group 27. They made a narration of
the plot and analysis of the Songs of
Innocence and the Songs of
Experience that played over a slideshow of related images. I appreciated
that it kept to the story and explained that instead of talking about other
unrelated stories like a number of other groups. The other groups that took
this approach were interesting but they didnユt really teach me a lot about the
William Blakeユs stories. They talked about the plot of the story while
uncovering Blakeユs underlying beliefs. They would say something that happened
and then follow it up with メthis showsノモ It made their message very clear. They
talked about how in the first story the character was personalized so that the
reader could make him more real in their mind, and it would tug on their heart strings. I like how the team contrasted the first Innocence poem with the Experience poem. They showed how the
tone drastically changed from the first to the second. Blake had lost his faith
in human kind, and there was a lot more pessimism after all the struggles and
hardship. I liked how they talked about how this was seen by calling Tom the
メlittle black thing among the snowモ and how they talked about the symbolism of
the white snow. They also talked about Blakeユs criticism of the church.
However, I would have liked the visual to be a little more meaningful.
All of
the groups did a great job today! My favorite was group 27's video. They did a
fantastic job preparing for this as they had put together a video with voice
over and images. They really went into deep analysis and there video was able
to convey a very strong message about The Chimney Sweeper from Songs of
Innocence. They made comments on the cruelty of society with a commentary on
child labor which I felt was very unique to their
project. They really expanded on the abuse and critique of the poem on
innocence. All in all I feel like their project was very well put together,
presented in an emphatic, eye-catching way, and really captured the deeper
meaning of Blake's commentary.
I thought
that the most meaningful presentation on Thursday was by group 27 who showed
The Chimney Sweeper movie. The movie was based on William Blakeユs poems
the Songs of Innocence and the Songs of Experience. They did a good job
explaining the real meaning behind the poetic satire of each poem. I have
a difficult time understanding poetry, and it was very helpful to hear them
walk through each poem and break it down in a way that I could easily
comprehend. I the Songs of Innocence, it deals with the innocence of
children before adulthood. In the time, young children were tragically
sold off to be chimney sweeps. The victims were too young to understand
the effect it would have on their future. The poem represents a sad
reality through a boy named Tom who characterizes other neglected children and
poverty. There is a dream of an angel, which appears to offer happiness
in sight. The dream is much like the church, which seems to offer hope,
but in the end actually do nothing to help the unfortunate situation. In
the Songs of Experience, we are offered a different viewpoint on a similar
story. This time instead of a young child, the boy is now grown up.
The boy is no longer called Tom, but is referred to as a little black
thing on the white snow. The boy has lost his innocence and no longer has
a name to identify him. The two poems read side by side offer contrasting
view of purity and the hardened, or youth and age. I appreciated the straight forward analysis that clarified each poem and their
relationship to one another.
Group 27
offered a very well demonstrated documentary on William Blakeユs poems: Chimney
Sweeper, Songs of Innocence and Experience. The symbolism they explained
throughout their film gave a greater insight in Blakeユs pieces. I also enjoyed
the pictures they included because they really portrayed the poverty stricken
society in which children grew up in. It also depicted
the difficulties chimney sweeper underwent. For me,
these poems were difficult for me to interpret and understand, and I felt like
this group gave me a deeper understanding of the meaning behind these poems.
Some changes I would have made would have been the tone of the speakers and
also the quality of the sounds. I felt that the speakers were not very
animated, and sometimes it was difficult to listen. Also, the quality of the
sound was low, and I would have maybe fixed this prior to the presentation.
Other than that, this group demonstrated great knowledge of the literature by
explaining the tone, language, and symbolism of each poem.
Group 27
had a very serious and powerful presentation. The only thing I think they
should have done is make sure that their voices were clear in the video because
some of them were difficult to hear speaking.This
presentation used a lot of powerful images of young children and chimney
sweepers from that time period. The images they used left a more lasting impact
about the reality of what William Blake was talking about. They started the
presentation talking about the first part of "The Chimney Sweeper",
which is titled the "Song of Innocence". The group then gave
background information about what Blake was talking about in this part of the
poem. Children were being sold for labor and working as chimney
sweepers at a very young age. Some of these children were so young that
they were barely able to speak, let alone understand why this was happening to
them. The fact that these children were so young when they
were sold means that they were denied the ability to experience being innocent
and having a childhood. The thought of these poor children and the
images being shown really portrayed a realness to what
Blake was writing about. The second part of the poem is the "Song of
Experience". This is about when the boy has grown up. The group explained
how when Blake talks about the boy becoming just a black speck in the white
snow, the snow is the representation of innocence. Then when the old mans hair
is taken away from him he is left with no innocence at all. This also left a
very strong image of how innocence is a terrible thing to lose and shouldn't be
taken away from anyone.
In this
final set of presentations, Group 27ユs The
Chimney Sweep/er analysis stuck out the most
for me. I enjoy the slideshows as much as the next person, but I like it more
when presentations have an in-depth discussion of the source material. I agree
with your overall analysis, but I was surprised when you equated the angel with
society. Angels are usually synonymous with all that is good, and not usually
used in the same sentence as the word メcruel.モ There are the two views, both
which you have mentioned, and that Blake has separated out into the two
categories of poems; the view of religion and faith
(innocence/naivete) and the view of cynicism
(experience). The last point I want to add is that maybe, the young narrator
isnユt as innocent as Tom, but wants to believe in and preserve Tomユs innocence.
Moving onto the darker version, in addition to the hypocrisy of the church,
there might be something to be said about parental duties and attachment. And
then what also can be said about the relationship between メreligious pietyモ and
メparental loveモ? Both of these (synonyms for love) seem to be lacking in (that)
society if people, especially the parents, can sell their children into
slavery. As pertaining to the words of the poem and your analysis, Iユm not sure
whose parents are being discussed, since the quotes arenユt specified. But due
to the メweep weep weepモ
reference, I think youユre right in saying itユs referring to the narrator in
Paragraph 13, which means that the analysis in Paragraph 11 is in
contradiction. Looking back, I think all of us are looking at both these poems
in the POV of Experience.
All of
the groups did a great job in their presentations, however, the one that I
enjoyed the most and that was the most meaningful to me was group 27 and their
movie that they produced. The movie focused on the two different poems
that showed different persepectives of chimney sweepers. One poem is positive and uplifting
whereas the other poem is depressing and negative. I liked how there were
many pictures throughout their explanations that went along with what they were
speaking about. These many pictures were a great visual aid and kept my
interest. I also enjoyed how they switched up the voices that were
talking in the movie so that not one person was talking for a super long time. This
showed that the group members were able to split up the work fairly and all had
an equal share in the creation of their movie. The explanations of the
poems and their summaries were very detailed which allowed me to have a greater
understanding of the poems and their meanings. They even went into more
depth with analysis of the two poems written by William Blake
Group
28
I enjoyed
all the presentations, but my favorite was Group 28. They used the
concept innocence vs. experience and made a modern day comparison. The
group used the movies The Wizard of Oz, Alice in Wonderland and Snow
White to show that something can bring so much innocence as a child, but
yet carries a whole other meaning now. I learned a lot from this
presentation because I didnユt know all the different conations that the movies
carried. Each character in the Wizard of Oz had a different
political representation for the time. There were many political issues
that were represented by characters Toto being the same as the average American
and the Scarecrow being the farmers. I also didnユt know how many drug
references were made in Alice in Wonderland. Almost everything in
the movie related in some way to LCD or cocaine. It was helpful to not
only hear what references were made it the movie, but also get to see
them. The movie clips allowed us to see exactly what they were saying was
something we had probably never known before and made the movie not so
innocent. The group did a great job showing the relationship between
innocence and experience. I would never have known that something I loved
as a child could mean something so different to me now that I am older. I
could really tell that the group understood the story and their topic because
they made it easy and relatable to something everyone in the audience
knows. I really enjoyed this presentation and learned a lot from it.
My
favorite presentation from May 30th was group 28s project. I felt like
comparing children movies from a kids perspective and
then from an adults perspective is a really good way of portraying the essence
of innocents and experience. I donユt think any movie was a better example then
the Alice in Wonderland comparison. I knew that there were some drug and
alcohol references in the movies but I didnユt realize how many there actually
were. I was shocked to see the marijuana leaf on the teapot as well as the many
LSD references throughout the film. Some of the connections I felt were a
little far fetched such as the seven dwarves all representing different states
of cocaine use, however it is entirely possible. I think the group did an
excellent job of presenting these connections as well researching them.
They did a good job of explaining how things can be masked by innocence
yet can be revealed once experience is had. My view of Disney has changed
completely. I knew that their history wasnユt as pure and clean as they try to
portray but I had no idea how dirty it actually was. If these hidden messages
are in fact real, its really quite surprising how they were able to start and
maintain there image as a family friendly company, as it turns out they might
be the dirtiest. Overall I thought group 28 did a great job,
The group
that was most meaningful and interesting to me was Group 28. They took a modern
spin on William Blake and his Songs of Innocence and Songs of Experience. What
they did was compare things that were innocent to us as children but when we
finally reach adulthood, we notice that they have hidden corruptions in them.
They gave us various examples displaying this corruption. For example, the
Wizard of Oz references many political issues that are apparent in every
character. In Alice in Wonderland there are many references to drugs. For
example, the white rabbit signifies cocaine. There is also a discrete marijuana
leaf on a teapot. Snow White is another Disney movie that gives reference
to cocaine. The seven dwarfs are seen to represent the side effects. It was
very interesting to see these hidden things in all the childhood movies that I
watched as a child. This presentation was very different to any of the projects
that Iユve seen so far in class. It related to Blakeユs Songs of Innocence and
Songs of Experience but in an interesting way. It was not boring in that they
did not simply describe and analyze or act out Blakeユs works. Because of the
uniqueness, I believe that it was one of the best group projects of the day. I
was engaged in their presentation for its entirety. They did a great job
describing everything. This group obviously spent a significant amount of time
researching and creating this power point .
My
favorite project of the day was group 28ユs modern spin on Songs of Innocence
and Songs of Experience. I thought it was very clever and funny how they
related it to movies of our childhood. It was very interesting to see how as we
get older the subtle signs in movies, that were supposed to be made for young
children, are much more meaningful and scandalous now. The three movies that
the group used were the Wizard of Oz, Alice in Wonderland and Snow White. I
have watched all of those movies many times when I was younger and never
realized any of the signs they pointed out. The first movie dissected was the
Wizard of Oz. It actually originated as a politically charged piece of
literature in the late 1800ユs. It was mocking and referencing politicians of
the day and the government as a whole. The next movie was Alice in Wonderland,
which is supposed to be an innocent movie about a young girl, but is instead
loaded with drug imagery and drug references. Snow White was supposed to be
another movie that was a childrenユs movie but as the group pointed out had
subtle hints of drug references. It appears that Blake may have had a point in
saying that when you are young the world in innocent and as you grow up the
world is bleak. To me it relates back to the old saying of ignorance is bliss.
In some circumstances, such as Disney movies, I believe that may be the case
and I would like to continue to live in my fantasyland of ignorance.
The project that affected me
the most from yesterday's presentations
was Group 28's report on the
differences between childhood innocence
and experience. Group 28 had a
great presentation that applied William
Blake's Songs of Innocence and
Experience, and applied them to
literature/movies that may have been
popular when we were children.
They used examples like Alice
in Wonderland and Wizard of Oz to
demonstrate that these stories may have
alternative meetings to
adults. The project itself was very
creative, the slideshow was well
done and the different elements
like clips from the movies helped to
demonstrate their point and kept the
audience engaged. The presenters
also used great tone and vocal
projection that helped to keep the
class interested.The
takes on the different stories was also interesting. I had heardrumors
that the Wizard of Oz was an allegory of the
historical/political events that took
place in the 1900s, but I didnユt
think that these were true.
Regardless, it was interesting to see an
example of how the story could be
construed different by an adult than
a child. As a child, you see
the story as merely fantasy, while an
adult with experience may try to
read into the symbolism and themes.
The same thing applies to
Alice in Wonderland. As a child, you are
unaware and oblivious to the idea of
drugs and how they may be
portrayed in the story. I liked that
this group was able to take a
reading from our class, and apply it
to other literature that we are
more familiar with in modern time.
I thought
the group that compared our childhood Disney movies to our
understanding of those movies now did a really great job. This was group
28, I believe. Choosing Disney was a really smart decision, because
it is a really safe assumption that almost everyone in the class has seen these
movies. With everyone having seen them, it is easy for the class to
relate to the presentation. Disney is often seen as the pinnacle of
childhood innocence and is loved by so many children around the world.
However, as the group pointed out, there are adult themes that
run through almost every Disney movie. Personally I do not think this as
negative as group 28 portrayed it. As a huge Disney fan, even at the age
of twenty, I think that the ability to maintain the innocence of the children
watching, and crack jokes that appeal to adults is the beauty of Disney movies.
The jokes, or references go completely over the kids heads and are meant only for the eyes and ears of
adults, and I think the way they have managed to maintain this through all
their movies is brilliant. One of the main reasons I liked group 28's
presentation so much was because it really got me thinking. It sparked an
interest in me to go back and watch all of my favorite childhood films with the
understanding of an adult. Great job group 28!
Group
28's project stood out the most this week because I had never known about the
different underlining meanings in these children's movies. The only book that I
had known of that had political meanings are the Orwell's novels. Wizard of Oz
stood out especially when they went over every symbol in the movie from the
characters to the settings. It was amusing that Toto represented the common man
because it actually makes sense when the presentation was going over his
significance. From how we as the common man can follow Dorothy blindly with out
question yet we can tell who is evil and who is not. The yellow brick road
symbolism was also a symbol that made sense because money takes people
everywhere and leads people to the leaders of any country. Alice and Wonderland
symbols opened my eyes to how far Disney references can go. The LSD and other
drug references brings the movie together and makes sense how
"tripping" out can really open up Alice's imagination. The marijuana
leaf on the tea pot was a subtle reminder of what the
movie's plot is all about. I have heard of cocaine being called "snow
white" but I had no clue of what the seven dwarfs symbolized. But with the
group 28's explanation, I can now understand how it can relate to drug use.
My
favorite presentation from the last groups was number twenty
eight. Their creative presentation and adaptation of the innocence and
experience poems were very interesting and unique. This group did well
explaining the different poems as well as the difference between the two. The
main reason why I really liked this group was because they found famous
childhood movies that from a children's point of view seem clean of any
inappropriate content. However, after experiencing years of life and looking at
the movies from a different of view, these movies are anything but innocent. By
looking at "commonly" thought innocent childhood movies from both the
point of innocence and experience, this group did exactly what William Blake
was trying to do in The Chimney Sweeper. Also, their witty pictures and
slideshow presentation really added great detail to the overall ten minute presentation.
Group 28s
project of comparing movies that are well known to us was very creative and is
something that I actually find very interesting. Growing up with Disney
movies it blew my mind with all the references that went over our head when we
were kids. I highly doubt that our parents would have let us watch these
movies if they had even gotten the hidden innuendos. The group drew some
very good resemblances between the movies and Songs of Innocence and
Experience. The poems have many hidden meanings that you would most
likely never figure out even if you have read them. I had known about the
drug references in Alice in Wonderland but not in Snow White. At
the time that Alice in Wonderland was written drugs were a very large part of
ordinary life. Drugs were not seen as a problem or a black mark on your record
as they are interpreted today. They used them to expand their minds and
be more creative. This is one reason why Alice in Wonderland was full of
crazy vivid colors and designs, it was like being on a
メtripモ. The presentation kept the class interested with its comedy from
the different innuendos and references in the movies. Finding a topic to
compare to the poems of Songs of Innocence and Experience must have been fairly
difficult, and group 28 did very well with what they were given. The
girls presented it very well and were enthusiastic about their project
Group 28
was great! Their presentation was very funny, and it kept my attention the
whole time. William Blake had a lot of hidden meaning in his writing, and
the group did a very good job at showing these hidden meanings in a fun and
hilarious way. They took clips from a couple Disney movies and showed a
lot of the hidden meanings in them. In a lot of these hidden messages,
the casual observer would not be able to pick them up. I believe this is
a lot like the Blakeユs writings, where if you are a casual reader, you will not
pick up on the true meaning of the text. This was also true in the
presentation. If you were not paying attention to group 28ユs presentation
closely, you wouldnユt pick up on some of the main correlations they use between
Disney movies and Blake. However, this made the presentation a little bit
confusing. At first I was not sure why they were showing the movie clips,
but they ended up doing a very good job at explaining themselves, and making it
a comprehensive project. All the projects from today did very well, and
they were all entertaining. Group 28, though, stood out to me the most
because of its quirky and interesting way of showing these correlations.
They made it very entertaining, and they kept my attention the entire time. The
group also was very good a presenting their material, as they did not appear
nervous at all. This makes for a much more entertaining presentation.
Of all
the projects presented, number 28 was my favorite. I thought it was a very
creative idea to use the theme of the William Blake poems and use it to analyze
some childhood favorites. It was interesting to learn that what we thought was
just fun and had no meaning as children, actually has a lot of meaning and is
representative of things we would not have been able to understand as children.
I did not know that メThe Wizard of Ozモ was representative of political issues
of the time. It does make sense though, hearing what the characters represent.
I also was unaware of all the drug references in メAlice and Wonderlandモ and
メSnow Whiteモ. It was interesting to learn about these hidden meanings now, but
I am glad I did not know about them when enjoying these films as a kid. It was
a creative idea to take things the class could relate to and tie them into the
poems.
Of the
groups that presented today on William Blakeユs Songs of Innocence and
Experience, the one that impacted me the most was Group 28ユs project.
Their comparison of movies as they are viewed through the eyes of those who are
innocent (children) versus those who are experienced (adults) really impacted
me and greatly reflected the songs by Blake. All three of the movies they
showed are classic movies that are viewed by children all over the world as
fun, entertaining, and sometimes silly. However, when the true meaning behind
these movies, which were created by experienced adults, is revealed you see
that they are not as innocent and silly as they originally seem. They all
express the very adult themes of political and economic issues as well as the
use of drugs. The most shocking thing to me was the fact that there is actually
a marijuana leaf on the teakettle in Alice In Wonderland. When you are watching
this film through the eyes of an adult, the leaf is a very blatant reference. I
think that the two views of the movies that were presented greatly reflected
Blakeユs songs. The Songs of Innocence all present topics of everyday life as
fun, joyful, and full of love and respect. While the Songs of Experience take
the same topics and put a very dark, cynical, and melancholy feeling to them. I
think that Group 28 did an excellent job of taking something all of us are
familiar with and showing us how they have the same qualities as Blakeユs Songs
of Innocence and Experience.
Of all
the project presentations today on Blake, the one I best connected with was
group 28's. The comparisons of innocence versus experience they made
between the more modern and well-known, yet classic
movies and Blake's writings were very convincing! It was amazing to hear of all
the specific examples from Wizard of Oz, Alice in Wonderland and Snow White.
It was obvious that the movies and comparisons were well-researched
because these movies are most often looked at in the way we all grew up with
them: as children's books and stories full of imagination and innocence.
This presentation opened my eyes to the hidden ideas behind each of the
stories, regardless of whether it was a poor intention of Disney to secretly
incorporate such adult/mature/experienced situations into the movie. It
was most interesting to internally compare the texts of Blake's Songs of
Innocence with how I have always seen Disney movies. After growing up and
learning more, I now see things that I did not know existed, just as Blake's
Songs of Experience outline. I really enjoyed this presentation, as it
encouraged me to think of many more issues that I have been naive to and have
only seen through innocent eyes. Group 28 did a great job!All the groups did a great job presenting their
projects to the class on Thursday. The group that stood out the most was group
28. I felt that I could connect with this groups project the best. The way they
compared innocence to Blakeユs writings was very believable and thought out.
This group did a great job putting an image in my head about all the older
movies for example, Snow White, and bonding the connection between them. I felt
that our imaginations as children were so free and innocent. I have always had
an メideaモ or image in my head about Disney movies and Blakeユs Songs of Innocence
changes your perception. This group did a fantastic job making a clear and
powerful presentation. I feel like this presentation makes you take a step back
and really look deep and you will eventually realize what is the truth and it
will open your innocent eyes. Great job Group 28
Group 28
compared the poems Innocence and Experience to modern day society. I thought it
was a very relevant idea and they had funny examples. For instance the
comparison between the characters of the poems to the characters of the Wizard
of oz had good contrast. While using the subliminal
messages in Disney movies was an example of how as a child we don't notice the
sexual or drug references but as we grow older we see that as a form of humor.
Something I would say about the performance is the girl who was speaking first
kept saying 'try' 'what we are going to try and show'. Instead of telling the
audience that the group is going to 'try' to show the similarities just do it
and convince us that they are similar. Also they got the title of the book
wrong, it's 'Alice's adventure underground' not 'Alice's adventure in
wonderland'. Oh and by the end of the presentation I felt like I was just
getting a lesson on the history of Disney productions and lost track of the
purpose.
The group
presentation that stood out to me the most yesterday was Group 28ユs メInnocence
vs. Experienceモ analysis. They really took a controversial view on the topic of
how we once perceived things when we were younger compared to how we view the
same things now. Although it is the same material we have known for so many
years, our experience through age enables us to see past the facades that once
appealed to us in our youth. This group discussed this occurrence through
Disney movie examples, including Alice in Wonderland and Snow White. Even
though I have heard theories on this topic before, I have never encountered
such an analytical, in-depth presentation on it. Thus, Group 28 really opened
my eyes to the fact that innocence can be quite blinding, as there are indeed hidden suggestive material within those
child-friendly movies. For example, they mentioned that several drugs can be alluded to in Alice in Wonderland, such as LSD and
cocaine. They even pointed out a marijuana leaf painted on the side of the tea pot in one scene of the movie. It is shocking that
things so blatantly obvious to us now were once not even a thought in our
minds. Even though innocence can be thought of as an ideal state of mind, I
think that too much innocence can really hinder personal growth and create bias
in the world because of its one-sided point of view. Experience, although
sometimes pessimistic, allows an individual to experience things themselves and
see all views on topics.
The group
whose presentation I enjoyed the most this round was Group 28. They chose the
Songs of Innocence and Experience and related it to movies of our childhood.
The poems in this collection compare the innocent, past world of our childhood
with the corrupt and repressed world of our adult life. That being the main
theme, it was a clever idea for the group to analyze this theme through another
form of art, film. Most of us still viewed the Wizard of Oz as a silly tale
teaching us that there is no place like home, until we learn of a lot of
political satire and representation throughout the whole movie. I had always
felt that Alice and Wonderland had underlying themes of drugs and tripping,
because lets be honest, that movie is crazy. But nonetheless I never thought
about the specific references such as the rabbit symbolizing cocaine. And
finally, Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. That movie
was never my favorite out of the Disney collection so I never watched it much.
Therefore, I had no idea of the cocaine reference. Whether or
not that was Disney's idea in creating the film, that is a really clever and
sneaky hidden theme. All in all, a very intriguing
presentation.
The five groups who
presented the other day did an excellent job in
getting their message across to the audience.
Out of the five groups
I thought group 28
was not only creative but entertaining. They
were
able to but a modern spin on Blake and the idea of
Innocence versus
Experience. By
taking childhood movies that everyone has seen they
were able to engage the audience. They then
were able to show how
people view these movies as innocent and fun when
really there are
hidden messages and ideas. My favorite example
they came up with was
there interpretation of the really meaning behind
Alice and
Wonderland.
How the rabbit hole was a state of confusion and the
Rabbit himself
represented Speed. By using modern day references they
were able to grab not only my attention but the
entire audiencesユ
attention as well. Comparing Blakeユs songs of
innocence to modern day
influential films was a creative way to show what Blakeユs
message was.
I found it
entertaining that they were able to come up with so many
examples from Disney movies. We all believe
Disney to be innocent and
pure but looking back on the films now I can see
the messages that
they described in their presentation. I
thought it was a very
creative presentation that the group was able to pull
off effectively.
They were able to
engage the audience with a modern idea but still
get their main points across effectively. It
was an entertaining presentation that I believe everyone enjoyed.
I think
that group 28 made a good presentation contrasting innocence and experience.
They brought in the two poems infant joy and infant sorrow. They wanted to
explain the difference between children being innocence to when they grow up
and experience real life. The group wanted to bring light to some of the modern
movies that we watched as children. When we were children we believed the
movies were innocent and were just telling a happy story. Now that we have
experience with life we can look back at the movies and see them in a new way.
Experience shows us that the Wizard of Oz, Alice in Wonderland, and Snow White
all have hidden messages that should not be portrayed to children. Drugs,
sex, corruption, and politics are some of the themes. The group explained that
the rabbit in Alice in Wonderland represented cocaine because he is white has
heavy eyes, and is running around very fast. The caterpillar was said to be
smoking marijuana or opium and is sitting on a mushroom. All of Alices experiences were thought to
be her tripping out on LSD. These are just some of the examples the group gave
that showed the loss of innocence this movie has now. I felt that this was a
good comparison to make with William Blakeユs Songs of experience and innocence.
I feel now the shift of having watched these movies as a child to now watching
them and seeing them in a new way. I was innocent and now I feel experienced.
Of all
the presentations today, I found group 28ユs to be the most effective. Although
they only briefly discussed William Blakeユs poetry, they clearly understood
where Blake was coming from, as they were able to translate the idea of the
differences between na夫e understanding of stories and the more mature understanding
that comes later in life. This group chose to analyze three very common movies
that we are all familiar with: The
Wizard of Oz, Alice in
Wonderland, and Snow White.
I enjoyed their presentation because these are all stories I have enjoyed for
most of my life, but like most, never knew about these allusions to politics,
social chaos, and geographic issues that are hinted at in The Wizard of Oz, the multiple drug
references in Alice in Wonderland,
and the cocaine references in Snow
White. Obviously these allusions are fairly well hidden, or at least
seem to be innocent in the movie to the young eyes watching, although as
children grow up and become more cognizant of the world around them, it is
likely they become more aware of these allusions Disney includes in their
animated movies. I was impressed by this groupユs ability to show how our
perceptions of the same movie can change drastically depending on our maturity
level, similar to the way Blake writes Infant Joy and Infant Sorrow. Although
this presentation was not closely tied to Blakeユs poems, it was definitely the
most interesting.
Although
I thought all of the groups that presented this week did a decent job, I
believe that Group 28 did the best job presenting William Blakeユs Songs of Innocence and Songs of Experience. Their
presentation interested me because I could relate to it so well. I grew
up watching a lot of Disney movies, and hearing that these movies might not be
as innocent and child-like as they appear was immediately attention-grabbing
to me. I thought that comparing Snow
White, Alice and Wonderland, and the Wizard of Oz to Songs
of Innocence and Experience was a great way to show the class the
contrasting views that Blake presented in his poems. I already knew that
there was some speculation that Alice
in Wonderland was referring to LSD and other various drugs, but it was
shocking to me that Snow White and the
Seven Dwarves might have been referring to cocaine and its side-effects. It was very interesting to hear about
how politically-driven the Wizard of Oz was as well. I thought that it was clever to
portray an unpopular politician to the cowardly lion and the Emerald City to
the wealth of Washington. This group took a different route when compared
to the other groups because they presented us with a modern connection to
William Blakeユs poems, instead of just analyzing Blakeユs writings. The
next time I watch any of these three movies I will remember their underlying
meanings and their similarity with Blakeユs poems.
My
favorite group presentation was group number 28. I really liked how they
compared the main ideas of Blakes Songs of Innocence
and Songs of Experience to Wizard of Oz, Alice in Wonderland, and Snow White.
They are all movies that I remember and have seen throughout my childhood. I
knew some of the hidden corruption in the movies, but it was very interesting
to see the ones that they pointed out as well. Like all the Alice in Wonderland
drug references and the political associations with the Wizard of Oz. By
comparing our childhood innocence to our experience today, and ability to see
the hidden messages in the movies strengthens my understanding of Blakes Songs of Innocence and Songs of Experience. The
concept of no longer having an innocent mind, and now with time and experience
we see the subliminal messages that are tied into these movies was illuminated
throughout the presentation. They are the same movies from when were children
the only difference now is that were are no longer innocent and we are able to
see these references to drugs, and political figures in children movies. As a
side not, I also was unaware that some of the employees at Disney believed Walt
Disney was addicted to cocaine. But in some way this also reflects this idea
that at some point everything and everyone is innocent, but with experience we
lose the innocence; in this case we lose the idea of a perfect world with no
evil. I also find it interesting that (if this assumption is true and Walt
Disney was indeed addicted to cocaine) that there is an intersection of
innocence and experience. Walt Disney is compiling movies for the innocent with
concepts of the experience, for one day there will be no innocence, however a
new light within the movies will be seen by the experienced.
The
presentation that was the most meaningful to me was the one comparing and
contrasting innocence and experience with Disney movies, I believe it was group
28. First of all, I liked how they all spoke with conviction and knew what they
were saying. It kept my attention the entire time. Their power point was done
very well and the inputting of videos really added to their performance. I
liked how they enforced their talking points with the video. I really enjoyed
how they took the idea of infant joy and infant sorrow and connected that to
something more modern to keep us all interested. I think it made me understand
the ideas of Blake more. It must have taken a lot of research to show exactly
what movies may have subliminal messages or alternate meanings, so I commend
them for spending the time. It spoke volumes of their commitment. Iユm not sure
how accurate the hidden meanings were, but they were definitely interesting and
seemed somewhat true. My favorite was when they were discussing the Wizard of
Oz. I feel like that one, over the others, could most likely be true because of
the issues going on during that time period. I really think they incorporated
many subjects in to enhance their presentation; it was a combination of
English, history, and film. I thought it was great. I thought they could have
spent some more time on Blake however. Ultimately, this presentation kept my
attention and entertained me. I would definitely love to know how accurate
their facts were! Great job.
Of the
presentations in the last class meeting the project that was the most
interesting to me was that of Group 28. The presentation used Blakeユs contrast
of innocence versus experience to analyze Disneyユs Wizard of Oz, Alice in
Wonderland, and Snow White. Most everybody in the room grew up watching Disney
films and didnユt think the least of the themes or symbolism in each film.
I found the most interesting portion of the presentation to be about the
Wizard of Oz. Iユve seen the film a few times and was surprised by the
incredible amount of symbolism behind each and every character or event. The
symbolism largely represented political tension and issues of the late 19th
century when the book was first published. Characters represented social groups
and their ideologies while the events and materials of the movie brought about
tension between them. The cyclone symbolized political upheaval at the time
while the yellow brick road represented the gold standard. Dorothy representing
the American people, the munchkins the common folk, and the tin man the industrial
workers. Overall I found the newfound symbolism to be very thought provoking.
Alice in Wonderland and Snow White were somewhat similar mostly showing the
hidden symbolism and themes representing drugs, addiction, and effects. The
seven dwarfs being the side effects of cocaine abuse, Aliceユs script having
hidden meaning about addiction, and even a cannabis leaf on a tea pot. By using more modern and relevant sources to
contrast Blakeユs Innocence versus Experience theme made the contrast much more
interesting to think about. In my innocence I would have never made the
connections to political meaning, drugs, and addiction that I know see from my
experience.
I thought
that group 28's project on Innocence and Experience was the best overall
project from this last batch of presentations. It analyzed a central theme of
Blake's writings and paralleled that concept with the childhood animations and
other movies that our generation is almost unanimously familiar with. For
instance with the wizard of oz, I really enjoyed all
the various comparisons that they were arguing for about the fact that the
wizard of oz is actually a political statement. Many
of the arguments such as the tin men representing factory workers and the
scarecrow representing farm labors would be difficult to deny. They also
analyzed Alice and Wonderland, which most people already knew had drug
influences since the original story was written by an addict.
However the group really suprised me when a pot leaf
was revealed on the tea pot in the you tube video that
they presented along with their power point. Snow white was also compared to
cocaine, however the arguments for this parallel were not as strong as the
others. Yes "Snow White" may be another name for cocaine but perhaps
the cocaine is named after the story rather than the story after cocaine.
Overall though, I related a lot to this presentation, which improved its impact
on me and my understanding of the themes involved in Blake's writings. On a
side note, I was very impressed by the song at the end of the chimney sweeper presentation by group 29.
My
favorite presentation I would have to say would be Group 28ユs presentation.
Theyユre theme was on how media from when we were children now means something
different grown up. They had many different examples of childrenユs movies, such
as Snow White and Alice in Wonderland, and how they had deeper meanings than
what we thought when we were children. They took The Wizard of Oz and showed
how it symbolized different political issues of the late 1800ユs. They showed
how Dorthy represented the American people while the
yellow brick road represented the gold standard. Another movie that they showed
hidden corruptions in was Snow White. Apparently Snow White is another term for
cocaine. I thought it was funny how they showed that the different names of the
dwarves represented different states while using the drug, and how it would
eventually end up in a trip to the メDoc.モ My favorite analogy they made between
mature audiences and children was Alice in Wonderland. This was another movie which represented drugs. Alice chases the rabbit like
an addict would, and her behavior represented that of someone who was on drugs.
There was even one part of the movie which they showed
us where she is at the tea party, and the tea kettle that they are drinking
from has a marijuana leaf on it. Also the tea that she drinks makes her change
sizes as someone on drugs might feel from the effects of them. Overall, they
did a good job showing how our innocence as children can be corrupted from
knowledge as we grow older and are able to understand more things.
I thought
that Group 28 did an exemplary job with their presentation. The idea of
using the contrasts between innocence & experience and comparing them
to modern day movies was not only original but also quite effective. Their
choices of movies: Wizard of Oz, Alice in Wonderland, and Snow White, are all
movies that the audience was able to relate to. Everyone grew up on these
movies and failed to see much of the symbolism in them. Group 28 did a good job
of opening our eyes to see that the childhood movies aren't as innocent as we
originally perceived. Not to take away from the other groups but this group
really took an interesting perspective on the presentation; a perspective none
of the other groups took on. Hats off to you, Group 28.
I chose
Group 28 as the best presentation for today. Their comparison of メInfant Joyモ
and メInfant Sorrowモ with modern movies we enjoyed as children was a fresh and
innovative take on the creative project assignment. It definitely captured the
attention of not only me, but everyone else in the
audience. I had previous knowledge that Disney snuck in little snippets for
parents, but I had no idea of the extent it went to. Group 28 showed us exactly
how different meanings the same film can have when it is viewed as an innocent
child, compared to viewing it as an experienced adult, who knows the true
meaning behind the movies. I loved those three movies as a child, so it was
crazy to see the true meaning behind them. In the Wizard of Oz, the most
surprising fact was that the entire movie was based around political issues
from the 1800's. Every character had a meaning, and even the scenery meant
things that one would miss as a child. To a kid, the lollypop guild is just a
happy group, but when you know the meaning behind it, you see it is meant to
represent the children who swept chimneys. It was also really shocking to see
the prevalence of drug references in two different movies! I had noticed the
hookah as a child, but obviously never any references to LSD, opium, magic
mushrooms, cocaine or marijuana. Group 28 did a great job in finding these
sources and succeeding in shocking the audience, much like the shock compared
to Songs of Innocence and Experience. Their ending was especially creative with
the Blake-inspired song.
Group
28ユs presentation was my favorite this week. They were inspired by William
Blakeユs poems Songs of Innocence and Songs of experience. Most groups just
compared the two poems together but Group 28 actually gave the idea a modern
update. Using the theme of looking at a subject through the eyes of innocence
and the eyes of experience, the group analyzed a few famous movies. The group
started with The Wizard of Oz, a beloved classic. What appears to be a simple
childrenユs story is actually metaphor for the political climate of the late
19th century. Each of the characters represented a group of people or person in
the American economy of the time. The next movie was Alice in Wonderland. The
whimsical fairytale actually had strong roots in drug reference. The white
rabbit was an allegory for cocaine addiction and there was even a hidden
marijuana leaf on a tea pot. The final movie was the
biggest surprise for me personally. I had heard before of the other two movies
being more than what the initially appear to be. The last movie discussed,
however, was Snow White and the Seven Dwarves. I always saw this story as the
most pure a kids movie could be. The group was here to tell us otherwise. The
seven dwarves actually represented the symptoms of cocaine addiction and メSnow
Whiteモ was cocaine. The whole presentation was an original and refreshing take
on Blakeユs work and very entertaining for the audience.
I really
enjoyed group 28's project comparing innocence to the subliminal messaging and
interesting ideas in Disney movies. All of us watched these Disney movies so
innocently when we were younger, and it's interesting to notice these sexual
ideas that may have been subtly added in the films. I thought it was well done
how they compared Blake's writings to the robbing of innocence
as we grow older. It kept all of our attention because we were interested in
what was really added to these movies, like the marijuana leaf on the Alice in
Wonderland tea pot, which I had never noticed before.
This group did a really good job relating Blake to modern day, and I really
enjoyed their presentation!
The group
presentation that had the most meaning to me was group 28ユs presentation on
innocence and experience. Their connection between movies from our childhood to
adult themes was rather eye opening. I had never really thought about it, but
it makes sense. It reminded me of when I go back and watch a movie that I loved
as a child. I find now that I see things I never noticed before. Typically it
is some sort of innuendo or reference to another movie. For instance, in the
movie Space Jam thereユs a scene with a reference to Pulp Fiction. Yosemite Sam
and Elmer Fudd are holding guns and dressed like
Vincent and Jules from Pulp Fiction. As a child I hadnユt seen Pulp fiction yet
due to its adult themes. At the time, I thought it was funny, but did not think
it had any further meaning. When I do watch a movie I liked as a child, a lot
of times I find the movie to be boring or ridiculous. Iユm glad this group was
able to point out some more instances of references I never noticed before. I
canユt wait to look for more from now on.
I felt
that out of today's projects, Group 28 was the most entertaining and applicable
to me. Again, I am a huge cinephile, so
anything to do with movies I really enjoy. I watched all of those films
as a kid, but the deeper meaning went right over my head. They described
when comparing it to the two contrary states of the soul as stated by Blake,
innocence and experience, which was incredibly true for those, and many other
childhood favorites. It wasn't until later in life that I realized them.
In my high school history class, we studied the Populist movement.
At the time, I was re-watching the Wizard of Oz, and I saw some
corollaries. I inquired to my teacher and she confirmed my suspicions.
It surprised me that all of the intense politics of Baum's time were
central to the seemingly innocent adventure of Dorothy and her companions.
In addition to what the group said, the story of the Wizard of Oz is
written in the Monomyth format, in which the main
character goes on a long quest filled with hardship, and gets help along the
way. At the end, the protagonist ends up back where he or she started as
a more knowledgeable person. There have been many interpretations of the
Wizard of Oz. Another (which I believe as well) is that Baum studied the
works of Gurdjieff, who was a spiritual teacher
during the early 1900's, and based the events around his principles. The group
also hit on Alice in Wonderland, which is full to the brim with hidden (and not
so hidden) adult innuendo. Carroll was actually in love with a wealthy
eleven-year-old girl he tutored, who was named Alice, and all of the sexual
innuendo was directed at her in the books. It makes the books even
creepier knowing that. I really enjoyed their presentation, and the
thoroughness of their analyses of the childhood favorites. It really
showed how through the lens of experience, many seemingly innocent things are
just the opposite.
Once again, choosing a group to
label as the most impressive this week was very difficult. I think this was the
hardest week to decide the group that I felt did the best because each group
put forth a very strong effort. I was excited about the groupユs presentations
because they gave a clearer definition of the challenging literature.
Ultimately, I decided the interpretation I liked the best was Group 28. Group
28 did an amazing job at presenting the information in a relatable and exciting
fashion. I never realized all the connections my favorite childhood movies had
to drug references. It was almost sad that if I were to go back now and watch
those films I without a doubt would recognize the references. This really
paralleled the ideals of innocence and experience. I guess now, my third year
into college I have had the experience and exposure to easily recognize drug
references and other phenomenon. I
was very interested in the undertones referenced in The Wizard of Oz. I never
knew that there were the references to the social setting and government in
what I thought was such an innocent film. Great job group 28 for opening up my
eyes and exposing me to the references sited in these classic works.
I enjoyed this group because
they referenced popular childhood movies
that made William Blakeユs work
feel more relevant to me. I also
learned much more about the movies I
enjoyed as a child that had never
occurred to me at that age. William
Blake, in his メSongs of Innocence
and Experienceモ, contrasts a
na夫e, and optimistic viewpoint of a
harsh, and unjust world, with a
stark, cold viewpoint of the same
subject. In the na夫e and optimistic
poems, the reader may not
understand the weight of the setting
from which the speaker delivers
the song. メInfant Joyモ, for
instance, speaks of birth and the
introduction to life as a newborn. メInfant
Sorrowモ recounts this
experience as a grueling tragedy,
exposing the reality of the
situation. This group likewise exposed
the reality of my childhood
movies, exposing me to a darker,
more reflective memory of those
experiences. For instance, I never knew
メThe Wizard of Ozモ to be
symbolic of political tension and the
Great Depression. As they talked
about the flying monkeys as
symbolizing politicians and the tin man
as symbolizing industrial
factory workers, everything made sense. The
movie no longer became a whimsical
fairytale land, but a strange
caricature of the conflicted history I
learned of. Seeing メAlice in
Wonderlandモ explained as a
stoner trip was not surprising, but still
disturbing. Snow White was slightly more
disturbing but Iユm not
thoroughly convinced of the drug use
themes in that movie. Either way,
the possibilities of these themes
are good examples of how William
Blake presents his themes in
his メSongs of Innocence and Experienceモ.
Of all
the groups that presented yesterday, I found Group 28's "Innocence vs.
Experience" to be the most compelling presentation. The theme of
reconsidering a situation that you had a naive or innocent perspective about
later in life, the most critical theme of Blake's work, is certainly prevalent
in everyday life- it is easily related to events in our own lives which we feel
that we later know the truth about. However, memories from childhood that are
never challenged or reconsidered remain "innocent" despite us
believing our current state of mind to be "experienced". I felt like
this presentation was an excellent example of these types of unchallenged
memories- the group chose to bring up movies that most of us likely watched as
children, took at face value, and never really reconsidered. While I knew
beforehand that Walt Disney used psychedelic drugs and that certainly some of
the scenes in Disney movies were no doubt inspired by drug trips, I had never
before considered the story of Snow White to relate so much to cocaine- the
group made especially interesting points about the names of the dwarves. Though
sitting and looking at it I still feel it's somewhat of a stretch, there were
definitely valid points about the possible cocaine references. Ultimately I
believe that it is much less important whether or not your memories are really
so naive, but it is important to at least challenge and reconsider them rather
than clinging to them as hard and fast truths in your life, and I felt that
this group did a great job to inspire the audience to reconsider their own
childhood experiences.
I thought
the メInfant Joy vs. Sorrowモ presentation by Group 28 was the most interesting
and entertaining. The group was able to connect the theme about the different
views of youth from William Blakeユs Songs
of Innocence and relate it to videos that the class could relate to.
Using culturally popular movies made the comparison even more interesting, as
everyone could understand the references. I was blown away by the hidden
information encoded within The Wizard
of Oz, Alice in Wonderland,
and Snow White. For instance,
all of the drug references in Alice
and Wonderland became incredibly obvious after learning what certain
things symbolize: the white rabbit and sugar for the tea was cocaine, the
メDrink Meモ potion was LSD, and メdown the rabbit holeモ refers to the neurotic
state experienced after using cocaine. Even obvious things that had escaped my
attention, such as the marijuana leaf on the tea pot,
made me realize how much experience contributes to perspective, as I would not
have understood the reference when I was younger. All of these contributed to
the idea that things which seem innocent may actually
have a negative side to them that come with experience. The presentation not
only conveyed fascinating information, but also used a well-organized Powerpoint that contained an assortment of bullets,
pictures, and videos. This variety made the project easy to follow and kept my
attention the entire time. Because of this project, I now have a deeper
understanding about the different ways one can view a subject. Innocence and
experience always skew the way people look at things, whether it be characteristics of youth or the hidden messages in a
classic childhood movie.
I really
liked the subject of this weekユs presentations as the
material of Blakeユs poems is indeed still applicable to today. My favorite
presentation from this week though was by Group 28, who compared Blakeユs メSongs
of Innocence and of Experienceモ to some of my generationユs most loved kidユs
movies. I feel like their presentation captured the message Blake was trying to
convey, but with a modern spin. I loved that the girls focused on three famous
childrenユs movies, especially ones so beloved! I knew that Wizard of Oz had a
double meaning, but I still find the whole subliminal message fascinating. I
had no idea though that there were alternative meanings to the plots of Snow
White and Alice in Wonderland. Iユve read Carrollユs story, and I have always
found it very odd, but the subliminal messages, mainly referencing drugs, were
new to me! One part that I found most fascinating was that the girls mentioned
a marijuana leaf on the tea pot. I, of course, hadnユt
ever seen that when watching the movie as a kid. The same goes for the
breakdown the girls gave of Disneyユs Snow White. Iユve heard rumors, as we all
have, that every Disney movie has some part of it thatユs, though hidden,
twisted. But I would have never thought this would be true for a movie dating
back to 1937. I was actually saddened to hear that these three films have
subliminal messages and that they arenユt as innocent as I thought. I guess the
film makers succeeded in hiding this from children, but, as an adult, I donユt
find it humorous either. I wish things could be purely innocent and unspoiled
by this world, but apparently it doesnユt work that way.
All of
the presentations today were really good. They were all so entertaining and
presented their information so well. However, I really like group 28ユs
presentation. They decided to present on the idea of Innocence v.s. experience, and put a modern twist on it. The group
selected movies from our childhood and showed a side of them that we would have
never known. I think this was an excellent idea and good example for innocence vs experience. When we were younger and watched these
movies we saw them through fresh eyes and had not yet experienced a lot in
life. Now seeing the correlation between the movies and different references
and parallels is so easy because we have experienced and witnessed so much more
in life. This was a great idea because the presentation was so relatable to the
audience, which made it easy to pay attention. The group discussed three disney movies: The Wonderful
Wizard of Oz, Snow White and the seven dwarfs, and Alice and Wonderland. They
should the audience a correlation between The Wizard of Oz and political
issues, Snow White and cocaine, and then Alice and Wonderland and drugs. The
group presented these correlations with a powerpoint
and a few clips of the different movies. Overall the group had a good presence
in front of the class, they made good eye contact and had strong voices
throughout their presentation. Next time I watch any of the movies they
presented on I will be thinking about the different references and
representations of the characters in the movies.
This week
group 28 had the presentation that interested me the most. There presentation
was called Innocence verse Experience. What they did was look at the two songs
メInfant Joyモ and メInfant Sorrowモ and applied it to more modern times with
movies of their generation メkidユs movies. They looked at the animated films of
Alice in Wonderland, Snow White, and the Wizard of Oz. What they pointed out
was that as a kid you see these movies at face value and what the makers want
the kids to see. But when you grow up and learn a little more about the world
and gain a little more メexperienceモ you start to see that these メkidsユモ movies
arenユt so child friendly. For instance the points they brought up was the fact
that Alice in Wonderland was heavily influenced by drugs, and well as Snow
White. The Wizard of Oz was based off of the political issues of the early
1900s. What really had me going about this presentation was how I always
see cartoons that I used to watch as a kid and when I watch them now I see how
much of the show that I missed. This presentation really made me think of all
the things I didnユt realize that was going on when I was a kid. The group did a
good job of presenting the material especially with the Alice in Wonderland
video clip and showing all the references that lead back to drugs in it.
They also did just spew out the facts like some group can do; they had the
lecture hall laughing which is always great. I think
this group did a good job and I understood the song of Blake a great deal more.
Group 28
was my favorite group that presented today. It was extremely interesting
to see the connections between William Blakeユs innocence writings メInfants Joyモ
and メInfant Sorrowモ with more modern day childhood stories. The allusions
made in these stories were not easily seen until they were pointed out.
However, once they were pointed out it was crazy and weird to see all of
the drug references. I had never noticed the marijuana on the
teapot in Alice in Wonderland until this group showed us. The other LSD
and drug references seem so comical in movies that are made for the younger
generations. メSnow White and the Seven Dwarfsモ showed the relationship
between drugs and their side affects. Who would have ever thought
that Snow White is another name for cocaine? The seven dwarfs were also
named after cocaineユs effects: cocaine causes exhaustion (Sleepy), mood swings
(Happy, Grumpy), allergies (Sneezy) and alteration of
personality (Bashful, Dopey) eventually resulting in a trip to the doctor
(Doc). I was also very intrigued by the political references made
throughout メThe Wizard of Oz.モ The characters, events and objects all
relate to political issues in the 1800s and the Great Depression. Group
28 did a great job keeping the audience engaged by showing these fun and
interesting fact. Showing video clips also made their presentation
stronger by supporting their findings. The PowerPoint presentation was
appealing with both the colors and layouts. This group was able to
reference William Blakeユs work in a modern way by showing clips from movies
that everyone has seen. This group did a really good job!
My
favorite presentation from today was group #28. I enjoyed this project the most
because I liked how they compared the innocence versus experience theme through
Disney movies. I learned a lot about the Disney movies that I grew up watching.
My innocence with Disney is over because I know that the stories are not as
carefree as I once thought. For example, the Wizard of Oz is full of symbolism
about the political issues in the 1800ユs. Each character and object in the
movie simplifies a much bigger issue. Dorothy was thought to represent the
American people while the tornado represents political chaos. The movies Alice
in Wonderland and Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs are filled with drug
symbolism. Some references include cocaine and its seven side effects
(7dwarfs). The growing and shrinking Alice goes through in Wonderland
represents what people can feel while high on LSD. The lines in the poems
that are portrayed in the presentation are very similar in type but different
in meaning. I believe that these verses side by side are more powerful than if
they were individually read because they compare the emotions of childhood
versus adulthood. I felt like I went through my own joys and sorrows when I
watched the clips of the movies during the presentation because they reminded
me of my childhood but I also felt sorrow because I had knowledge of the
subliminal symbolism in the movies. My knowledge has corrupt the way I see
Disney movies and they are not as fun anymore. I think this presentation
impacted me the most and it really relates to
I really
liked the premise of group 28ユs project. They decided to compare things we all
saw as children to how we see them now. This went along well with the theme of
Blakeユs Songs of Innocence and Experience. They decided to compare many movies
of our childhood that seemed extremely innocent at the time, but truly had many
deeper meanings that were invisible to us as children. The first movie that
they covered was the Wizard of Oz, and it blew my mind. I had never thought to
analyze the Wizard of Oz in a political manner, but after they presented the
evidence, it truly all made sense. I particularly was shocked that Lollipop
guild was representative of child labor, as it seemed like such an innocent
part of the movie at the time. Also, the Great Wizard of Oz representing the US
president makes perfect sense now, because he seems to have unlimited power
throughout the movie, but at the end, he turns out just to be a normal man.
Alice in Wonderland was another fun movie that this group analyzed. I had heard
of people saying that there are drug references in the movie, but I never
thought that there would be so many. I especially liked the video clip in which
they showed the weed leaf on the teapot, because that was evidence that the
references were intended. It was also very interesting to see that the seven
dwarves were actually associated with the different stages of cocaine
addiction. Now that I look back at all of these movies, the references seem
obvious, even though they were slyly incorporated into the films.
Group 28 had a very good idea of
taking a modern spin on Blake. I believe that taking older pieces of work
and putting a modern spin on them helps to better understand the works
themselves and makes it easier for the audience to relate. I also liked
the use of specific childhood favorites that the group liked. The
analysis of Wizard of Oz, Alice in Wonderland, and Snow White show hidden
references in all of the films and kept the audience interested. The use
of film clips from YouTube and other images were wonderful. A fresh and
new idea that kept the audience interested and allowed for a better
understanding of Blake.
Group
29
Reading
The Chimney Sweeper by William Blake made me think about how difficult and
miserable life was for the children who were forced to work at such a young
age. Group 29 did a wonderful job describing that time period and I was blown
away when they wrote a song and sung it to the class. It really took courage
for the group member to go up in front of the class sing it the way he did, I
really commend him for that. Re-writing a song was very creative and
thoughtful. Slavery and child labor is still present in our society and not a
lot of people are aware of this. It made me think of songs that are played on
the radio constantly and the fact that the majority of them do not talk about
anything important, just love, sex, and other pointless topics. There are
certainly some artists out there that do stand up for what they believe in and
write songs about certain political issues, and it does take a lot of courage
to do that being that thousands or millions of people are able to hear the song
and make a quick judgment that can lead to a scandal and have the potential to
end someoneユs career. I feel like if artists took a stance like William Blake
did writing these subliminal poems, it could really make a difference.
My
Favorite performance from todayユs acts was from Group 29. Their creative work
on William Blake focused mostly on the メChimney Sweeperモ but compared a bunch
of poems between innocence and experience. It was awesome to listen to. The
group started out with a short biography of William Blake, which helped
introduce the artist to everyone who still didnユt know much. They then started
out with comparisons between several seemingly opposites, such as メThe Lambモ
and メThe Tygerモ. Next they explained the メChimney
Sweeperモ in the Songs of Innocence. This poem is told from the point of a
child, who is na夫e to his environment and represents the sadness behind child
labor. A couple clips from Disneyユs メMary Poppinsモ made out chimney sweeping as
fun, a sad and unacceptable message to todayユs standards. Their pictures caught
my attention as well. While ioncluding the colorful
works of Blake himself was nice, their presentation was also spiced up with
their own pictures. These other pictures either made people laugh, or increased
the gravity of the situation. They made clear the loss of innocence that
came with experience. The experienced child understood his situation and was
forced to cope with it. However, it was their original song that was truly
unique. It was sung to the tune of Mary Poppinsユ メChim
Chim Cher-eeモ and captured
the sadness and despair of the song of experience. This creative solo was a
first in the class and really explained the poem at a deep level. Overall, the
performance had insightful messages and really brought out the emotions in
William Blakeユs poems.
I was a
little disappointed in the group presentations this week. Since it was the last
day I assumed they would continue raising the bar. This said,
I did enjoy the last two groups, Group 29 in particular. Their song was very
clever and original. It tied in various aspects of William Blake's character
and history with serious modern day issues we face. I found it very educational
looking at the similarities of slavery in modern day and Blake's time. I think
they did a great job relaying how Blake was regarded in his society and
clarifying our misconceived notion of his status. Also, it was awesome that we
got a debut of their original song. It definitely caught my attention.
My
favorite presentation of the day was Group 29's project The Chimney Sweeper. I
liked that it was very informative on William Blake's background, to learn
where the poems came from. It was funny to compare Blake to how he would be in
his present time, today. Also, finding out that some of William Blake's poems
were in the English building made known how great his poems truly are and since
I never go in that building, I might go to see the walls now!But besides just the background of the author. I
loved their comparison to Mary Poppins. I never realized where those scenes
actually came from and how opposite the portrayal of chimney
sweepers were in different stories. Blake's representation was way more clear in how the boys were treated and what actually
happened. Mary Poppins seemed to glorify such a dangerous job, to please the audience.My favorite part of the The Chimney Sweeper presentation was the song that was
created based on Mary Poppins' song Chim Chim Cher-ee. It was so creative
and really got down to the core of what really happened and what the song
should be about. I was very impressed and the student who sang it was pretty
good! All around the best presentation on William Blake and his poems was this
group; way to go!
The two
group presentations that I enjoyed the most was group
30 and group 29. I couldnユt decide between the two of them. Group 30 was wildly
entertaining and comical. I felt that they put a great amount of time into
writing their script, and developing their powerpoint. All of the comparisons they made about
college life were so accurate and hilarious they could only have been written
by college students. And considering they only had two members in their group,
they did a great job of handling the load between themselves. In fact, I think
it worked out for the better since one person could start the comparison, and
they other could finish it. This seemed to work quite well.
Group
30... I had to give group 30 mad props for that original song. I was blown
away. I was sort of half in and half out of paying attention up until the
singing started. I was immediately jolted into being engaged in the project. I
thought that it took a huge amount of courage to do what he did, especially
considering that this wasnユt required and they could have done a million other
things besides singing a song. I think that it was successful in that the
lyrics were very well written and timed nicely with the instrumentals. Overall
I enjoyed all of the presentations today and felt that they all should be proud
of what they produced. Group 29 and 30 were just the ones that stood out to me
at the end of the day.
Every
group who presented today did a great job, but the one that I connected most
with was group 29ユs presentation on The Chimney Sweeper and The Chimney Sweep.
I personally connected with this presentation because in high school, I
also did a presentation on these songs, so I feel like I had some background
knowledge yet I still learned a lot from their group. I thought the group
did well analyzing the material and pointing out the major themes within the
poems. I liked that they compared and contrasted the two poems because it shows
the change from innocence to experience, which is what Blake wanted. He
wanted to show that although both poems criticize the child labor of cleaning
chimneys, there is a difference between someone who is older and has a
different outlook on life and someone who is younger and does not quite understand
the life they are living, and I think this group did a wonderful job of
explaining those differences. I also enjoyed the clips from Mary Poppinユs because it was entertaining and made their topic
more relatable because I have seen Mary Poppinユs many
times. The movie portrays chimney sweeping as fun when all of the men are
dancing around, but what they donユt show is the child labor aspect of it.
Some facts that shocked me from their presentation are that the boys were
about four or five when they were sold to do this labor because they were
small, and the fact that the employers used to light fires under the boys to
get them to work faster. It is crazy to me that this used to happen in
real life and is very hard to believe that people could be so cruel. I
learned a lot from their presentation and they did an all around great job!
Although
all of the groups did a great job presenting, the group that stood out the most
to me was group number 29. This group not only presented the material in
a very organized manner, but also transformed this difficult piece of
literature into something that was easy to understand. It was obvious
that they prepared for this project far in advance and was able to expand upon
it through collaboration and group meetings. What stood out the most to
me about this presentation was how the group paralleled the Disney movies we
all saw as kids to William Blakeユs childhood. If I were to watch these
movies now after the presentation, I would recognize all of the similarities
and discrete symbolism implanted behind the plots. This was really
interesting considering every student in the class could relate to the
comparisons being made. My favorite slide was the one of Forest Gump
standing over his motherユs grave. By placing light hearted pictures and
animations, it made this depressing novel not so sad to watch. William Blakes childhood was sorrowful,
but also showed the intense working hours and conditions experienced by kids
before child labor laws. This group did an amazing job presenting as well
as correlating their presentation to the novel.
Out of
all the presentations presented on Thursday, I enjoyed group 29 the best. The
group decided to do a power point of the chimney sweeper.
They had useful information throughout their PowerPoint and
the information presented was clear and helped explain William Blake
along with the stories. The most interesting aspect of the presentation was the
relation to the Disney movies and song of innocence. They did a very good
relating the two to show you how Disney portrays chimney sweeping to be and
what chimney sweeping was actually like. As the presentation went on the
information provided on the slides gave the audience good background details to
relate the two. From the slides you could see how Disney movies like Marry
Poppins portray one thing when in actuality the truth is very different. I
appreciated this interpretation because I know of a lot of Disney movies that
have hidden or suggested themes that donユt reveille themselves to kids. The
theme of the presentation was to compare child labor and abuse to nice themes
of innocence in Disney movies to show the difference. I
The
presentation that blew the others away was that of Group 29. Not only was 29ユs
presentation creative, but it was informative and easy
to follow. Focusing on William Blakeユs two renditions of The Chimney Sweeper,
the presenters utilized a professional looking power point presentation, movie
clips from Marry Poppins, and an original song in order to embody the spirit of
The Chimney Sweeper from both The Songs of Innocence and The Songs of
Experience. Kicking off their presentation with a quick overview of Blakeユs
life, Group 29 gave the audience a broad perspective on where The Chimney
Sweeperユs poems came from. Moving on to the actual poems themselves, the
presenters etch feeling into both versions of The Chimney Sweeper. Focusing on
the メinnocentモ chimney sweeper, Group 29 explains how
the story is narrated by a young kid, and highlights how the kidユs innocence
allows him to be na夫e to the true horrors of being an abused chimney sweep. In
depicting the Songs of Experience, Group 29 displays how an older, jaded man in
the chimney sweeping business has become メexperiencedモ and does not believe in
the promises fabricated in the Song of Innocence. As this group came to a
close, they ended with an original song associating the life of a chimney sweep
to the current plight of human trafficking. Overall, I believe this song, and
the entire presentation as a whole, has allowed me to better understand the
depth and meaning behind Blakeユs chimney sweeper.
All of yesterdays presentations were very good. Although i did find the Disney films and their drug references
interesting and valid at times, they could have tied it back to Blake a little
more. In my opinion, Group #29 did the best job of tying in outside sources
with Blake's poems in order to strengthen their analysis of his works. FIrst they gave some background on William Blake and his
accomplishments, including the "Illuminated Printing "Relief
Etching"," which was very interesting to learn about. They also
emphasized the fact that Blake was not popular at all in his own life and was
"obscure" until many years after. I also didn't know that he thought
of himself as a prophet, which is quite humorous. They focused on Blake's poem
about chimney sweeps and Tom Dacre, who was a
representation of any children who were neglected by their parents and forced
to become chimney sweeps. They did a good job with contrasting Blake's two poems,
the innocent one and the one of experience. They talked about how Tom Dacre doesn't realize he was abandoned in his innocence and
in his experience he realizes he has his parents to blame for his misfortune.
The use of the happy, excited clip of the chimney sweeps dancing around from
Mary Poppins helped contrast the reality of being a chimney sweep, which is
incredibly dangerous. This group also related chimney sweeps/child labor to sex
trafficking in the world today. The song written for Mary Poppin's
song was also very creative and bold.
This
round of presentations represented a great wealth of research in combination
with such creative exploration; but of all, group 29's collaborative piece made
the greatest impact. Seeing the primitive printing process behind Blake's array
of works really opened my eyes as to how difficult and involved it was to get
any sort of drawing published during his time. With today's innovations and the
internet, you can publish your own piece while sitting
at home and clicking a mouse. In comparison, Relief etching, or illuminated
printing as it was called required a sheet of metal and strong acid to cut
through it and engrave the detail of the picture. And to
think that William Blake invented the process. Tribute to this process
can even be seen around Cal Poly's campus in the form of painted murals on
classroom doors. As for research, I enjoyed the group's insight into the poor
chimney sweep boy, Tom Dacre. Not only is "Songs
of Innocence" a poem about the troubles of young boys and the questionable
ethics of working these kids at such a young age with such grueling work, but the group noted that it aims to depict a much larger
issue, and that Tom Dacre represents all neglected
children in society. But most exciting of all was the re-writing of Mary
Poppins chimney sweep song. Certainly Mary Poppins' version is not even a
mildly similar enactment of the attitude of chimney sweeps during that time,
and to hear a more realistic version set to the same cheery tune, gave me eerie
chills down my spine. Great presentation.
Group
30
Group #30
had the best presentation in my opinion. They related Blake's Marriage of
Heaven and Hell poems to the Book of Proverbs in the Old Testament of the Bible
and also to "Proverbs of Cal Poly." This group interpreted
William Blake's writing the best. Almost every slide in their
presentation was connected to at least one verse from the text. The
Proverbs of Hell are Blake's version of a satire on the actual book of Proverbs
from the bible. They did a great job of briefly interpreting Blake's
writing then comparing it to the words from the bible. It was interesting
to see how the verses literally meant the opposite of one another. My
favorite part of the presentation was the group's parody of Blake's satire.
They made up Proverbs of Poly which, based off
the language used by Blake, depicted the average social and academic lives at
Cal Poly. The connections made to Poly were surprisingly very similar to
Blake's verses. Although this group did not spend much time talking,
their points were reflected to the class clearly and in interesting ways.
The class remained engaged in the presentation which
helped me to comprehend their words. Verses from the Proverbs of Hell,
Proverbs from the Old Testament, and Proverbs of Poly were lined up next to
each other neatly to help the audience understand the material. This
group was very organized and successfully expressed their ideas to the class.
I really
enjoyed all of the presentations give in class today however my favorite by far
was the final presentation given by group 30. I was especially impressed with
it because there were only two people working on it. The group took William
Blakeユs, The Marriage of Heaven and Hell and put a twist on it to be Marriage
of Studying and Social Life. They came up with humorous and creative proverbs
of their own in order to present the material and entertain the class. They
were called Poly proverbs. Iユve never heard that class laugh so hard, and
applaud with such enthusiasm. The class appreciated this presentation
especially because most could at least relate to one or more of the Poly
proverbs presented. It was the perfect way to end the class period and the
quarter.
While
other groups showed great strengths in thoroughness and detail of their
analysis of Blakeユs works, my favorite group presentation would have to have
been Group #30. I thought it was necessary and very beneficial to providing
background to Blakeユs work by including his biography. In doing so, it allowed for
me to gain a little insight on his works. While the group only had two members
that presented, I felt that their presentation didnユt lack at all. My favorite
part would have to have been when they had cleverly made proverbs of their own
called メProverbs of Polyモ as a spoof of Blakeユs proverbs which spoofed the
Bibleユs proverbs. This was an ingenious idea that allowed for the whole class
to relate as well as laugh about. My favorite proverb they had come up with was
メA locked door is a barrier to sight, not soundモ, I thought that their delivery
of this quote alongside a picture was stark enough to draw a large amount of
laughter from the class as most of us Poly students could have at one time
related to this instance. As clever as their witty proverbs were, they were
also very thorough in their analysis going so far as to delve in on Blakeユs
criticism on religion by writing メProverbs of Hellモ.
I felt
that all of the presentations from May 31st were very well done and
filled with humor. I really enjoyed the presentations from groups 28 and
30. I really enjoyed the way group 28 brought the ideas of innocence and
experience from the works of William Blake into some of the movies that we all
watched in our childhood, but I am going to focus on the presentation from
group 30. The first reason I liked this presentation was because this
group had the disadvantage of only having two members but they were still able
to complete the ten-minute presentation very successfully. Another reason
I really enjoyed this presentation was because of how the group reworded the
proverbs from William Blake into their own proverbs for Cal Poly
students. I thought this idea was extremely creative and humorous.
One of the proverbs this group created that I was very entertained by was メthe
engineer never asks the business major for help with calc,
nor the business major, the engineer, how to make friends.モ Being an
engineer myself and having a roommate who is a business major I have seen this
proverb in full effect during my time at Cal Poly. I also thought it was
clever when the group did not change the words of Blakeユs proverb メYou never
know what is enough unless you know what is more than enoughモ but used it in a
manner most college students can relate to, drinking too much alcohol.
Overall, this group did a very good job of presenting the proverbs of Blake
along with adding humor with their own proverbs for Cal Poly students.
The
two group presentations that I enjoyed the most was
group 30 and group 29. I couldnユt decide between the two of them. Group 30 was
wildly entertaining and comical. I felt that they put a great amount of time
into writing their script, and developing their powerpoint. All of the comparisons they made about
college life were so accurate and hilarious they could only have been written
by college students. And considering they only had two members in their group,
they did a great job of handling the load between themselves. In fact, I think
it worked out for the better since one person could start the comparison, and
they other could finish it. This seemed to work quite well.
Group
30... I had to give group 30 mad props for that original song. I was blown
away. I was sort of half in and half out of paying attention up until the
singing started. I was immediately jolted into being engaged in the project. I
thought that it took a huge amount of courage to do what he did, especially
considering that this wasnユt required and they could have done a million other
things besides singing a song. I think that it was successful in that the
lyrics were very well written and timed nicely with the instrumentals. Overall
I enjoyed all of the presentations today and felt that they all should be proud
of what they produced. Group 29 and 30 were just the ones that stood out to me
at the end of the day.
My
favorite group was Group 30 "The Marriage of Heaven and Hell".
I thought they did a tremendous job despite the fact that they only had two
members in their group. Their proverbs were witty and creative and they
did a great job of bringing the ideologies of William Blake into our era.
Also, I thought that their quick biography of William Blake was very
appropriate and they were able to segue nicely from the biography into the
proverbs. Group 30 used humour and comedy to
get their point across, and I believe that their methodology was very
effective. I noticed the class was restless during the first half of the
presentation, but once Group 30 hit their stride, the class was engaged and
laughing at every hilarious modernized proverb. Overall, I thought they
did a marvelous job. A great way to end the class on a
high note.
Of all of
the groups, 30 was the most memorable for me because
of how well they related the information to Cal Poly. Despite having only two
group members, they provided a presentation that was original and quite
comedic. The proverbs of Poly were excellent; it reminded me of how much there
is to truly learn from college outside the academics. So many people are
finding their way in college and it is truly the great transition into
adulthood and being responsible for your own self. When you think about college
as the last step of the transition it is crazy to see what people do with their
selves. There are a great many mistakes and irresponsible decisions made in
college and I think everyone is just trying to learn those proverbs. Another
part that I really enjoyed was the proverb about getting classes and being able
to graduate in four years. Less and less of my friends tell me that they will
be able to get their degree in four years. Although part of this might be
because of not being able to get classes, I think that a greater reason is just
the amount of classes required to be completed by four
years. It may very soon become that a four year degree
is a thing of the past and five years or more of schooling is required for your
bachelorユs degree. Group thirty was an excellent presentation and a great way
to end the class.
My
favorite presentation from today was Group 30's presentation on Blake's
proverbs. The presentation was modern, entertaining and incorporated the
presenters' interpretations well. More so, Blake's text, from which the
presentation was based, was adequately illuminated and helped me to better
understand that poem in particular as a result. I enjoyed the comparison that
was made between Blake's proverbs and Proverbs from the Old Testament in the
Bible. I thought that the quotes taken from Blake's text, along with those
taken from the Proverbs chapter in the Bible, were chosen well and adequately
supported the presenters' argument that Blake's writing opposes what is stated
in the Bible in regards to Heaven and Hell. I thought this was interesting
considering Blake, though he disagreed with organized religion, was a religious
man who believed in God and what was written in the Bible, which the presenters
also touched on. The interpretations provided by the presenters of some of
Blake's other proverbs were very clever, and their modern take on these
aphorisms not only provided an explanation of Blake's writing that was
relatable to the audience but portrayed college life at Cal Poly in a fun,
humorous way as well. I especially liked the comments made about Metro and VG's
and the quip about locked doors at the very end. That is so true! Overall, I
thought it was a great presentation, especially with only two people to put it
together, because it was an equally entertaining and informative analysis of
this text by Blake.
After
seeing all four of the presentations on Thursday I think everyone did great but
one group stood out the most and that was group 30. This was the group that
wrote their own lines to the marriage of heaven and hell. I enjoyed this
presentation because the provided comedic inferences to the William Blake poem
and also were able to engage the audience. The presentation was not only
engaging but informative and creative as well. If I had never read the poem I
could have understood the gist after watching group 30 presentation. Overall it
was well planned out and interesting. The clever references back to the poem
allowed them to be funny without loosing the idea they were trying to convey. I
found it particularly funny during the portion of the presentation when they
created their own lines and called them the proverbs of poly that was pretty hilarious.I enjoyed the way the
group was able to incorporate all of its members with out making it feel like
one person was controlling the who presentation. Although other groups tried to
do this group 30 did it best. There were many things I
enjoyed about the presentation but my main reason for choosing group 30 is that
they hit all of the key points from the poem that needed to be mentioned where
other groups could have used more clever way of portraying Blakeユs message. All
this said the group presentations were all great but if it came down to a vote
for the best one I would choose group 30.